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From Liberation Scotland Committee (LSC). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As detailed in our email response to Jim Sillars, while this draft paper correctly identifies some of the key issues that must be addressed by Scotland’s independence movement to achieve its goal and protect the national interests of a future Scottish state, the proposed ‘foreign’ policy positions in response to these are entirely counter-productive and frankly dangerous for Scotland’s future. If adopted and published widely, they will damage the emerging positive relationships on the world stage created to date by the work of Liberation Scotland, undermine Scotland’s case to the UN and threaten the likelihood of support for and recognition by the international community of nations for an independent Scottish state. -------------------------------------------------------------------------

We fundamentally disagree with your proposals to align the ‘foreign policy’ position of an independent Scotland ahead of achieving independence, on the basis of essentially continuing to follow the UK’s historic position, i.e. support for the US ‘special relationship’, continued membership of NATO and (unwilling) host of US nuclear weapons on the Clyde. This policy position will greatly damage Scotland’s case for self-determination (currently being taken by Liberation Scotland at the UN) and will not deliver security or sovereignty for a future Scottish state. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The policy positions proposed in your draft paper for Scotland – and particularly those expressed regarding the US, NATO, the EU, China and the nations of the Asian and African continents – will do immense damage to Scotland’s international credibility and standing, including amongst the 29 member states of the UN Special Committee on Decolonisation (C-24). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Given that (a) the likelihood of the Scottish Government being granted ‘Section 30 permission to hold another independence referendum during the life of the current Scottish Parliament is extremely low, and (b) the governments of most western nations (including the US and our European neighbours) are predominantly hostile to Scottish independence (due to their own self interest), we consider it entirely unhelpful to the process of the international relationship building for Scotland’s independence movement to express support for the US and NATO, while marginalising the importance to Scotland of building positive relationships with nations in Asia, Africa and the emerging powerful global non-aligned movement.

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I have some thoughts on Sovereignty and Foreign Policy Relations:

Sovereignty

We should not talk about Scotland 'gaining' what the article refers to as 'sovereignty'. This implies that sovereignty lies somewhere other than with the Scottish people. That can only mean Westminster and, by extension, means accepting that the parliament sitting at Westminster is currently sovereign.

I do not concur!

The historical Scottish tradition is one of popular sovereignty which can be traced back at least until the Declaration of Arbroath (1314). This democratic lineage was reiterated by the Claim of Right (1689) and reiterated by Kenyon Wright in 1989 – remember “ we say yes … and we are the people”?

It is not a parliament of political representatives and certainly not one that resides in another country and is not representative of the Scottish population at all.

We are seeking the return of our statehood via our human right of self-determination as underpinned by the UN Charter, a right that we are currently barred from exercising due to the British government and the acquiescent and timorous compliance of the SNP led by John Swinney and his Scottish administration at Holyrood.

It is the people who are boss in Scotland. Not the people subject to Westminster agreement. The people alone. That principle must be asserted at all times.

Foreign Policy

It seems as though the thrust of the argument here effectively aligns with the current foreign/defence/NATO policy of the British government which can be summarised as 'Russia bad'. In fact, it is the USA and Europe including the UK but via Ukraine, that is the aggressor. The Russians are protecting their, to use the term in the article, 'state interests' in Eastern Ukraine, 90% of whom are Russian speaking and who, previously, had been subjected to brutal murder and mayhem by neo-Nazi militias in these areas.

It is largely accepted that the CIA engineered the Maiden Coup of 2014 which overthrew the Russian friendly government of Viktor Yanukovych, ultimately leading to the unstable and dangerous position that we are now in. So why would we wish to ally ourselves with an organisation whose prime member goes around the World overthrowing (or attempting to) governments that it doesn't like (Iran 1953, Chile 1973, Grenada 1983, Panama 1989, Afghanistan 2001, Iraq 2003, Libya 2011 etc). It does this regardless of the whichever flavour of the uniparty holds the US presidency and whoever the personality is (Biden, Trump) in office.

Perhaps a period of fence-sitting would be a good idea. Why not join the Partnership for Peace for example? That way, we could be like Ireland and signal our willingness to engage but not unconditionally where we might be forced to do the bidding of the clearly militant dominant states comprising NATO.

Why have independent statehood if your foreign/defence policy will remain largely unchanged in terms of military alliances?

In any event we really should be making contingency for the Scottish people to have the final say on the matter once a proposal has been fashioned - that's called democracy. Where the people are in charge - remember the DoA 1314 and the COR 1689?

Finally, perhaps we should remember that the Russians might actually be our friends. After all it was they who paid by far and away the largest sacrifice in WWII. The 28m Soviet dead, of which 14m were Russians.

The Arctic convoys may have supplied them but it was the Russians who did the brutal fighting on the Eastern Front. If any country or people can be described as having 'won the war' It was they - not the Americans and certainly not the British - who did so.

We should approach our foreign relations with an open mind not one conditioned by decades pro-Western propaganda since the end of the Second World War and centuries of British indoctrination since 1707.

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